Diskussion:Equus (Act I - Scene 07)

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Scene 7 describes Dysart's meeting at the Strangs´ House. He finds out, that Alan likes horses very much. Also Dora tells him that she has allowed Alan to watch TV by a friend because of the ban by his dad.
At next Frank arrives. He says that Alan always has cleaned up the horses stable but never wanted to ride a horse.
When his wife disappears in the kitchen for making up a cup of tea, Frank narrates Dysart an interesting fact about his religious wife. In fact she reads the bible every night to Alan, because he can´t read. He, Alan, likes the stories what Frank couldn´t understand. He clearly says that he is a atheist. As Dora comes back in the room the parents of Alan have a small "fight" against each other.
Now Dysart directs his questions on sex. But now i can´t understand anything ^.^ --N1C 16:37, 18. Okt 2006 (CEST)

I think you could write it a little more fluently. Also the third last sentence is a little bit weird.You think that the parents are fighting against each other WHILE Dora comes in the room.And what means "ban"? I don't understand that. I also correct some grammar mistakes.--Aluzzz 17:46, 20. Okt 2006 (CEST)

Yeah it might be possible that Nic had some grammar mistakes in his text, but all in all, besides of this one sentence, I think the text was easy to understand. But I would try to proof that the text is more fluently and not so "German English".I mean that it sounds like just translated in English. But ok. It is easy to understand and this is what I liked in your summary.


Friddl --Friddl 08:55, 6. Nov 2006 (CET)


Hi, this is another version of a summery: Scene 7 is a description of Dysart's visit at the Strangs´ House. There he finds out of Alan's devotion to horses. In the beginning Mr. Strang is absent, so that Mrs. Strang, Dora, uses the time to tell Dysart about themes Mr. Strang doesn't approve. Alan`s parents have different points of view, especially in regard of religion and education.

I'm going to continue finishing this plot later, I have to go now. Sycamore


Hi Sycamore, I'm sorry if I kind of "stole" your scene but I needed a text to work on. Here's what I made of your first sentences. We might discuss about it!?--Hawkeye 22:45, 22. Okt 2006 (CEST)

In Scene 7 Dysart comes to visit the Strangs’ house. In the beginning Mr. Strang is absent which gives Dysart the time to talk to Mrs. Strang, Dora. They assume that Alan must have loved horses. He spent his weekends at the stables, though he never wanted to ride any of the horses. Talking about these animals, Mrs Dysart is shown as a religious person, as she’s able to recite big parts of the book of Job including a scene with the beloved animals. She also told Alan about the Latin word for horse which is “equus”. Something else which Dysart finds out during his visit is that Alan got to watch Western movies at a friend’s house (as the Strangs don’t have any TV). It quickly appears that Mrs Strang (who tells him) and Mr Strang must have different points of view, especially in regard of religion and education.

Mr Strang comes in, Dora leaves the scenery for a moment to make some tea. That gives Dysart the opportunity to talk to Mr Strang in private. Mr Strang admits he ‘s an atheist and blames the bible for Alan’s terrible crime. He can’t understand his wife telling the boy all those bible stories and Alan being so fascinated of that. Dysart hears about Alan hardly being able to write anything. He worked in a shop selling electrical and kitchenware.

Mrs Strang appears and Dysart goes on asking questions, for example one about sex. He asks what Alan might have known about it and receives the answer that Mrs Strang informed him about some biological facts as well as she told him sex was “not just a biological matter” (p.35, l.4). Talking about Alan she breaks down in sobs. “No one’s laughing, are they Doctor?” (p. 25, l.15).

What remains is the image of a difficult family full of differences. On the one hand a religious mother who loves her son, and an atheist father who thinks of his son as “a weird lad” (p.33, l.19) on the other.

Hi Hawkeye, you lunatic, stealing my scene! Dare you! Well, I will try to correct your summary a little bit. That's gonna be my part. Sycamore

In Scene 7 Dysart visits (I´m not sure if it´s proper English to say to come to visit/better is to go to visit, or just to visit) the Strangs’ house. In the beginning Mr. Strang is absent which gives Dysart the time to talk to Mrs. Strang, Dora. The reader finds out, that Mr. Strang is not very religious by Dora saying:"He doesn´t set much store by Sundays." (p.30). She claims that Alan loves horses, because Alan always got excited when she read over and over again the same book about a horse to him. He even had a picture of a horse in his room. Mrs Strang is presented as a religious person, when she explains that she told him some passages of the Bible where horses are involved. She is able to recite big parts of the book of Job including a scene with the beloved animals. She also told Alan about the Latin word for horse which is “equus”. She also confesses to Dysart that Alan got to watch Western movies at a friend’s house secretely (as the Strangs don’t have any TV because Alan's father doesn´t approve watching). It quickly appears that Mrs Strang and Mr Strang must have different points of view, especially in regard of religion and education.

Mr Strang comes in, Dora leaves the scenery for a moment to make some tea. That gives Dysart the opportunity to talk to Mr Strang privately. Mr Strang admits he is an atheist and blames the Bible for Alan’s terrible crime. He cannot understand his wife telling the boy all those Bible stories and Alan being so fascinated of them. Dysart hears about Alan's disablility to write properly. His patient worked in a shop selling electrical and kitchenware.

Mrs Strang appears and Dysart goes on asking questions, for example one about sex. He asks what Alan might have known about it and receives the answer that Mrs Strang informed him about some biological facts as well as she told him sex was “not just a biological matter” (p.35, l.4). Thinking of Alan she breaks down in sobs. She is embarrassed and afraid of her husband and doctor making fun of her and gets the rejoinder:“No one’s laughing, are they Doctor?” (p. 25, l.15).

What remains is the image of a difficult family full of constrasts. On the one hand there is a religious mother who loves her son, and on the other an atheist father who thinks of his son as “a weird lad” (p.33, l.19).

Hey hawkeye look over it, and tell me what you think about it. I'm already late for Sport. Bye Sycamore


Summarizing this scene is quite difficult, cause it has so much information in it. Maybe we could add the fact that Alan was never sitting on a horse. Just cleaning the stables. I think that could be a important part in the developing of the story. But I don't want to criticise your work!! This is a very good summary Sycamore & Hawkeye & Nic Keep it up :D --Schlindes 16:24, 24. Okt 2006 (CEST)


Hey Sycamore, there’s some little things to discuss about. First of all, I think Schlindes is right. It might be important to say that Alan even worked at the stables but never rode any horse. “In private” means “unter 4 Augen” so I bet you could leave it like shown in the first version. And there’s something else: I don’t think Dora is afraid of her husband and doctor making fun of her. Look at Frank. It says “kindly” and “she glares at him. He puts his arms round her shoulder”. I don’t think she asks this question “no one’s laughing, are they Doctor?” because she’s afraid. She might just be sad and wants to make sure her son’s crime wasn’t just some dream. I thought it was more as if she’d ask something like: “This is real, isn’t it? No one’s laughing, so this can’t only be a joke?” She might hope all this is only a big dream and will go by soon. Anyways, this is a part for “interpretation”. What you think of this? If you agree, I’d like to get rid of your sentence which says that she’s afraid of them kidding about her. We might discuss this at first before putting in the whole text. Once this is done, we’ll still be able to even improve it (!)…haha…one can really spend a lot of time on those pages! Good work + thanks for correcting.--Hawkeye 18:18, 24. Okt 2006 (CEST)


Hi guys, I worked on this scene once more together with Brick. It's finally done now and put on the article-page.
-> Double your pleasure, double your fun, with Doublemint, Doublemint, Doublemint gum. --Hawkeye 08:49, 6. Nov 2006 (CET)


Hey Hawkeye! Shouldn´t be statements like "she is presented as a religious person...." and "the reader finds out...."done in a interpretation? I find your plot summary well done, but I would put statements like those in a new interpretation text. Or? Comments please!--Friddl 09:01, 6. Nov 2006 (CET)


Yes, you´re right and I think that phrases out of the book don´t fit in a summary but in an interpretaion...so correct it but the rest is well done!:) --Schnitzel 09:07, 6. Nov 2006 (CET)

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